Thursday, January 26, 2006

Kobe's 81 vs. Jordan's 63

On January 22nd, Kobe Bryant lit up the Toronto Raptors for 81 points.


There's only been one game in NBA history in which one player scored more points...and that was when Wilt Chamberlain scored 100.

The question is...

Is Kobe's 81 against the '05-'06 Raptors a more impressive feat than Jordan's 63 against the '85-'86 Celtics? posed a similar question to its readers:

Which single-game scoring feat is most impressive?

46.9% - Jordan scoring 63 against good Celtics team in 1986 playoffs
34.3% - Bryant scoring 81 against bad Raptors team in 2006
18.8% - Chamberlain scoring 100 against bad Knicks team in 1962

21, 281 total votes

Interesting that the votes came in the opposite order of points scored.

In Chicago we've been Jordanized. We automatically think that the best player in the NBA is the one that closest resembles MJ. So the following argument will obviously be criticized because I love Jordan and have no love for Kobe.

But I think Jordan's 63 beats Kobe's 81.


Jordan put up 63 against the 1985-86 Boston Celtics...a team often referred to as one of the best ever.

Jordan put up 63 in the Boston Garden, where the Celtics compiled a sick 40-1 record during the regular season.

Oh yeah...and Jordan put up 63 in the playoffs against the team that went on to win the NBA title.

Don't get me wrong. 81 points against anybody is ridiculous. But Kobe did it at home in the regular season against a team with a record of 14-27.

It's still astonishing. It still doesn't quite look right when you type 81 points for one player. And yes, Jordan's game went into double OT.

Still, 63 against one of the best teams ever in their house in the playoffs is more impressive to me than 81 against an awful team in your house during the regular season.

Now, sports fans (and there are probably 6 of you out there), tell me I'm wrong.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry Drew, no arguements from me -
I could not agree more.

I was thinking about this very thing tonight as the (very average) Bulls sliced up the Raptors.

Let's see Kobe do it against a professional team.
Jordan lit up a championship level club.


January 25, 2006 10:39 PM  
Blogger mos said...

I'm not going to say you're wrong. Terry and Dan have me brainwashed, and although I'm new to the "score", I not stupid enough to bad-mouth MJeff in his own backyard. You can get killed for some shit like that.

January 25, 2006 10:45 PM  
Blogger tory dolan said...

I'd have to ditto what's being said. And I'm not even a conditioned Chicago kid. While 81 points is indeed impressive, Jordan takes the cake.

And Novelli... nice touch with the numbers.

January 25, 2006 10:58 PM  
Anonymous "28 of 46" said...

I will be the lone man yelling:
C'mon, man, it took Jordan almost an entire extra quarter...AND THEY LOST THE GAME!
Does it matter if Jordan dropped 63 if they lost? The Lakers were down 18 in the third quarter and Kobe just flipped it to Ludicrous Speed. He shot 61% from the field...
I searched the internet for the box score on the Celtic game, but I couldn't find it. Jordan was best, man, no one's gonna argue that, but I don't care how many points you score if you lose. LA needed 81 from #8 just to win the game and he gave it to them.


January 26, 2006 9:28 AM  
Blogger Anna P said...

"I wanna be like Mike!!!!"
Well, minus the adultery and SpaceJam, but really, who's keeping score?
Chicago Forever...

January 26, 2006 2:52 PM  
Blogger Anna P said...

P.S. TJ just got fired from Drew's blog. Boo to you. haha =)

January 26, 2006 2:53 PM  
Blogger mos said...

That's how you get famous, TJ ... you hang your balls out there. I like you. I might not agree and am somewhat envious that you are the minority; I reserve that spot for myself because I'm egocentric. I want to be friends with you.

January 26, 2006 8:34 PM  
Blogger isaiah said...

is it possible to say we're comparing apples to oranges? comparing stats in two different times and styles of play may be a little difficult, but if i'm not allowed to be a fence sitter, then kobes is more impressive. didn't mike have a better supporting cast? the fact they were in the playoffs speaks to that. like tj said, kobe had to do it himself. while many points came from free throws, and while the raptors aren't the steel curtain on defense, kobe still had to make his shots. looking at the shot chart ( only 5 of his 28 shots made were in the paint. a jumper is still a jumper regardless of who you're playing in what arena. and finally, the fact he did it in regulation. and maybe i just am one of the few who like to root for kobe the steak bryant.

(just an interesting collage of stats from Chris Ramsay, ): To put Kobe's superhuman Sunday into some perspective ...

NBA teams have been held below 81 points 99 times this season.

The Lakers were held below 81 four times. They lost to the Wolves 88-74 on Nov. 9. (Kobe had 28). The Lakers lost to Memphis 85-73 on Nov. 14 (Kobe scored 18). The Lakers lost to the Rockets 76-71 on Dec. 18 (Kobe went for 24). And on Jan. 3, the Jazz beat the Lakers 90-80, when Kobe served a league-mandated suspenion.

The Trail Blazers and the Rockets have been held below 81 points nine times this season.

And the world champion San Antonio Spurs were held below 81 both times they played the Pistons this year. On Christmas Day the Pistons beat the Spurs 85-70, and just last week Detroit beat San Antonio 83-68.

January 27, 2006 7:14 PM  
Blogger dbrown said...


Jordan shot 22-41 for 54%
Kobe shot 28-46 for Kobe shot better.

Jordan was 19-21 from the line.
Kobe was 18-20. So that's even.

I just can't get over the difference in the teams.

The Raptors road record at the time of the game: 8-14

The Celtics home record at the time of the game: 40-1

The Celtics also had 3 of the Top 50 NBA players of all time in their starting lineup. was the PLAYOFFS.

January 28, 2006 1:01 AM  
Anonymous #8 said...

The Celtics home record after the game: 41-1...

I guess we'll just agree to disagree...

tj aka 82

January 29, 2006 12:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jordan is Jordan...but 81 is more than 63...THAT'S IT

January 30, 2006 11:36 AM  
Blogger dbrown said...

Jordan's game went into OT and he still didnt take as many shots as Kobe.

Jordan also had 6 assists to Kobe's 2.

January 31, 2006 1:03 PM  

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